# Lester Young planned to join Ellington! Video, Photos

- Link: https://jazzblues.eu/2022/09/30/lester-young-planned-to-join-ellington-video-photos/
- Published: 2022-09-30T00:02:18+01:00
- Author: https://JazzBlues.EU

**Let me share a press announcement that was not known to Ellington experts I’ve
consulted. It states that Lester Young was slated to join Duke’s band in 1942! This
never happened, of course; after Barney Bigard left Duke in early July 1942, he 
was replaced by one Chauncey Haughton.**

Don’t forget that Bigard played tenor sax as well as clarinet in the band, and tenorist
Pres also played clarinet—so the replacement plan is not as strange as it might 
seem at first.

Young had left Basie in December 1940. The gig at Kelly’s Stable that is mentioned
in the news piece had taken place in February and March 1941. (Musician Bert Kelly
called his Chicago club Kelly’s Stables, but his Manhattan club was called Kelly’s
Stable, causing plenty of confusion.) That was one of the only times Young had worked
as a leader to this point in his career, which is probably why they singled it out.
Since then, Lester had mostly worked as the featured sideman to his drummer brother
in Lee and Lester Young’s Band, in Los Angeles and Hollywood.

What’s most interesting is that the article — in the Pittsburgh Courier (a distinguished
black newspaper)— dated July 9 and published July 11, 1942 — reports that Pres had“
signed up” to join the band, not that it was merely a possibility. And notice, the
press release doesn’t suggest that this would have been a one-time guest appearance,
but that Young would have been a regular member of Duke’s band.

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As documented in the amazing Ellington research site TDWAW.Ellingtonweb.ca, the 
band spent much of the year 1942 in Los Angeles, and they were in town the entire
summer, largely to rehearse and then perform Duke’s political musical Jump for Joy,
which opened July 10 and closed September 27. Young’s L.A. stint with his brother
Lee’s band was to end in late August, so it makes sense that he and Duke would have
spoken in early July, when Bigard left, about what happened next. Pres did indeed
come back East, but instead of joining Duke, he went with the original plan, which
was to remain in Lee’s band when they performed at Café Society in downtown Manhattan
starting September 1, 1942.

Pres was so closely associated with Basie — as closely as, say, Johnny Hodges was
with Duke— that it’s astounding to think that such conversations were going on. 
This unknown little news item boosts our knowledge of how widely Lester Young’s 
genius was appreciated. Before Basie, Fletcher Henderson had reached out and hired
him in 1934 (it famously didn’t work out for more than a few months — but still,
it happened). Then came Basie. It isn’t widely known, but Benny Goodman indicated
that Young was his favorite saxophonist, and that Basie’s was his favorite band;
it’s no accident that they were both guests at Goodman’s famous Carnegie Hall concert
in January 1938. In October 1940, during a lull in Basie’s touring activity (long
story, but Basie had management issues, which may have even had something to do 
with Pres leaving two months later), Goodman reached out with an offer (and a recording
session, not issued until 1972) to actually hire Pres, Basie, and other Basie band
members for his own group! And now we can say for certain that Pres was also admired
by Duke.

Why didn’t it happen? If I had to guess, I’d speculate that Duke somehow hadn’t 
realized that Pres’s unique, spare and ethereal clarinet style was such a far cry
from Bigard’s flashy, virtuosic approach that he couldn’t possibly fill Bigard’s
role on that instrument. A different role, yes, but not like Bigard, and I’m guessing
that another Bigard is what Duke wanted. But nobody thought to ask about this event
while any of the involved parties—the musicians and the management—were alive. So
we’ll never know for sure.

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